Newsvine
  • Welcome
  • Help
  • Report Bug
  • Conversation Tracker
  • Your Column
  • Replies
  • Friends
Type Comments Since You Last CheckedArticle Source Last Checked Stop Tracking All Clear Tracking All
Advertise | AdChoices
Log In | Register
Close the Login Panel
Existing users log in below. New users please register for a free account.

New Users:

Existing Users:

E-Mail:
Password:
Forgot Password?
Please enter the e-mail address or domain name you registered with:
E-Mail/Domain:
Back to Login
Log Out
  • Top News
  • Local News
  • World
  • U.S.
  • Sports
  • Politics
  • Tech
  • Entertainment
  • Science
  • Business
  • Health
  • Odd News
  • More
    • Arts
    • Education
    • Environment
    • Fashion
    • History
    • Home & Garden
    • Not News
    • Religion
    • Travel
Visit luckydog's column >>

LUCKYDOG

Proud to be a Progressive Liberal.
Articles Posted: 20  Links Seeded: 5499
Member Since: 2/2006  Last Seen: 5/15/2012

What is Newsvine?

Updated continuously by citizens like you, Newsvine is an instant reflection of what the world is talking about at any given moment.

Get a Free Account
Help
Fun Stuff
  • Your Clippings
  • Leaderboard
  • E-Mail Alerts
  • Top of the Vine
  • Newsvine Live
  • Newsvine Archives
  • The Greenhouse
  • Recommended Articles
  • Wall of Vineness
Put a Seed Newsvine link on your own site

154 Members of Congress Object to Pro-Abortion Obama Mandate | LifeNews.com

Seeded on Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:51 PM EST
Read Article
health, obamacare, scalise
Seeded by luckydog
Advertise | AdChoices

Congressman Steve Scalise today led a bipartisan letter with 154 co-signers calling on the Obama Administration to reverse its unconstitutional mandate forcing religious organizations to include drugs that can cause abortion and birth control in the health care plans of their employees.

“This radical mandate by the Obama Administration is an attack on the religious freedoms guaranteed to all Americans by the Bill of Rights,” Scalise, a pro-life Republican from Louisiana, said. “Religious organizations and hard-working taxpayers should not be forced by the federal government to pay for abortion-inducing drugs, contraceptives, or sterilizations in their health care plans.”

  • Enjoy this article? Help vote it up the 'Vine.

Published to:

  • luckydog's Column, All of Newsvine
  • Groups: Alternative Health & Wellness, HealthVine, ObamaExpress, ObamaVine, Political Analysis, Politics in USA
  • Regions: none
  • Public Discussion (24)
luckydog

What about the rights of the employees and taxpayers and citizens that want this coverage? What about their rights?

  • 16 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 2:53 PM EST
Agent 57

ummmm.. the pro-pregnancy group doesn't care...lol..

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM EST
mrsrachelm

There -is- a way for everyone to get this coverage without trampling on the Constitution in the process but it seems the anti-religionists are more concerned with giving the Church and religion a black eye and are using this rant about how they won't be covered to do so, than admit there is a compromise available where -everyone- gets what they want.

It's all about the hatred for the church, for religion and for Christians specifically. If it weren't the proposed compromise would have been adopted, everyone on all sides would be happy and this contraception provision in health insurance would be a non issue.

Obama will likely back down on this one and adopt the compromise and then take all the credit for his ever-so-bi-partisan ways (what a joke) because it's an election year and he has really screwed the pooch on being so stubborn on this issue.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:31 PM EST
Happily BLUE in Ohio

I'd like to know where the other 381 members of Congress stand on this.

  • 9 votes
#1.3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:57 PM EST
Agent 57

so Rachel.. what's your compromise.. I'd be interested to hear. I'm a Christian and think the Catholic Church has way overstepped it's boundaries...

  • 12 votes
#1.4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:00 PM EST
madvargr

Before she responds, I'd like her to consider her position first. Does Rachel know that more women than men vote in America? That 99% of women use contraception? That currently only half of the states mandate contraception be included under health insurance (while all policies cover Viagra - how does THAT work?)? Obama is doing right for American women. If the Catholic Church doesn't want its health insurance companies coverage to be covered under the rules, they have a solution - use their trillions of dollars and self insure.

  • 6 votes
#1.5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:27 PM EST
Buckeye Voter

154 Members of Congress Object to Pro-Abortion Obama Mandate

381 Members of Congress did not object. Aw, crap. Happy stole my thunder.

  • 6 votes
#1.6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:27 PM EST
Sebbydad

many states have the same requirement - the church says nothing.

Many catholic universities and hospitals offer contraception as part of their insurance plans and have done so for years - the church says nothing

98% of sexually active Catholics support contraception.

The only reason that this is an issue now is because it is an election year.

You run a business, you follow the law.

What does this have to do with religious freedom? What limitation has been placed on the Church? If Bohener and the rest were serious qabo0ut this challenge, file a law suit, get it in front of the supremes and let them decide.

  • 9 votes
#1.7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 6:22 PM EST
mrsrachelm

so Rachel.. what's your compromise..

Wish I could claim the credit as this being -my- compromise, lol, but these have been already in successful operation.

Before I go there I want to address this comment:

Before she responds, I'd like her to consider her position first. Does Rachel know that more women than men vote in America? That 99% of women use contraception?

The whole purpose of a compromise is for everyone to come away happy. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

Now onward and upward...

Third Party Insurance.

All that needs to be done for everyone to be happy is to allow Catholic run hospitals etc to provide it's employees with information or referral to third part insurers who provide birth control, morning after pill abortion, etc if they so choose to use them. Referrals to a third party insurance provider solves everything for everyone.

So simple.

But those who have an anti-Catholic agenda or have their hate on for religious organizations in general do not -want- to compromise as they see this as a golden opportunity to "stick it to 'em". I would much rather a way be found for everyone to come away from this happy but I recognize that railing at the Church due to personal agenda is more important to some as can be seen in the many comments made by a large number of viners on the articles seeded or written about this issue.

So simple.

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 10:17 PM EST
madvargr

The whole purpose of a compromise is for everyone to come away happy.

Here's the compromise - Insurance Companies cover contraception, and those who don't want to use it don't have to.

  • 7 votes
#1.9 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 2:09 AM EST
Severed Head in a Jar

The whole purpose of a compromise is for everyone to come away unhappy. Nobody gets everything they want. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

  • 4 votes
#1.10 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:36 PM EST
Reply
Chum

This makes my blood boil--this is about birth control, not abortion. Women's health issues should not be a political football. Too bad a lot of their parents didn't have access to better birth control.

  • 13 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:07 PM EST
Happily BLUE in Ohio

Women's health issues should not be a political football.

Maybe the MoC should have a little chat with Susan G. Komen administrators. They might gain some insight about how the nation feels when women's health becomes a political hot button.

  • 12 votes
#2.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:58 PM EST
Reply
Desertzonie

154 that should not be reelected.

  • 13 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM EST
American Spirit

Yep. They seem to have a problem with the fact this country is run by a 200+ year old Constitution instead of a much older unvalidated religious text.

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:07 PM EST
Reply
3rdtime

Abortifactants are NOT covered in any way, shape, or form.

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:39 PM EST
Vooda

But I bet the plans cover Viagra to get all those willies working......

Don't you see the hypocrisy of it all.

Men - Viagra - yep

Women - Contraception to protect from all the eager willies - hell no!

Women - Abortion got pregnant from the lack of the above - hell no she's got raise that young'en and hopefully she'll learn not to be so whorish

Women - Welfare - oh hell no we aren't going to support that illegitimate child, the whore got herself in this mess she and her snot nose kid are getting their just rewards

The republicans and holy rollers want to keep women as second class citizens....their desires to remove contraception, abortion, and welfare from women make no sense and it certainly isn't christian at ALL. Shame on the pseudo do gooders!

I for one love what Obama is trying to do and have so much respect for him!

  • 12 votes
#4.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:36 PM EST
Severed Head in a Jar

But their thinking is that anything that interferes with the unification of sperm and egg is bad. Some contraceptives prevent this from happening, or prevent the implantation of a fertilized ova is equivalent to an abortifactant.

The idea is that any sex act must have as it's ultimate goal the production of another human being (or human soul, as they would prefer to think of it,) and that anything that interferes with that goal is a sin.

  • 2 votes
#4.2 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:43 PM EST
Grae

The "Every Sperm is Sacred" argument is beingmade by Rightwingistan residents such as Santorum.

  • 2 votes
#4.3 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST
Reply
neoatg

This goes to show these people have no clue how a woman body works and never @!$%#ing did.

  • 6 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:43 PM EST
American Spirit

I wouldn't even be bragging about a letter that the majority didn't sign.

  • 6 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 3:53 PM EST
Chum

I'm not surprised. They apparently didn't even read the plan anyway.

  • 6 votes
#6.1 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 4:17 PM EST
Reply
Grae

Plan B does not cause an abortion any more than hormonal birth control on a regular basis does.

  • 7 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Feb 8, 2012 5:59 PM EST
Severed Head in a Jar

See my post 4.2 above.

  • 2 votes
#7.1 - Thu Feb 9, 2012 7:45 PM EST
Reply
Leave a Comment:
You're in Easy Mode. If you prefer, you can use XHTML Mode instead.
You're in XHTML Mode. If you prefer, you can use Easy Mode instead.
(XHTML tags allowed - a,b,blockquote,br,code,dd,dl,dt,del,em,h2,h3,h4,i,ins,li,ol,p,pre,q,strong,ul)
Newsvine Privacy Statement
As a new user, you may notice a few temporary content restrictions. Click here for more info.
FUN STUFF:
  • Leaderboard |
  • E-Mail Alerts |
  • Top of the Vine |
  • Newsvine Live |
  • Newsvine Archives |
  • The Greenhouse |
COMPANY STUFF:
  • Code of Honor |
  • Company Info |
  • Contact Us |
  • Jobs |
  • User Agreement |
  • Privacy Policy |
  • About our ads
LEGAL STUFF:
  • © 2005-2012 Newsvine, Inc. |
  • Newsvine® is a registered trademark of Newsvine, Inc. |
  • Newsvine is a property of msnbc.com