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Is Corn Syrup Sugar?

Seeded on Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:41 AM EDT
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — The setting sun splashes warm hues across a ripening cornfield as a man and his daughter wander through rows of towering plants.
Like any parent, the dad says in the television commercial, he was concerned about high fructose corn syrup. But medical and nutrition experts reassured him that in essence, it's the same as cane sugar.

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Par4TheCourse

Sweet is sweet..

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:04 AM EDT
luckydog

Splenda is sweet. Is it sugar?

  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:32 PM EDT
Baron von Steuben

. . . yes.

  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:34 PM EDT
luckydog

...No. It is made from sugar though. Splenda is as different from sugar as gasoline is from oil.

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:03 PM EDT
Baron von Steuben

damn. 0 for 2. I'll just be quiet now.

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:08 PM EDT
Shannoscubie

damn. 0 for 2. I'll just be quiet now.

It's not a contest!

I only learned about HFCS recently. Same with MSG, but that was a bit earlier because it was making me physically ill and I had to figure out what was what so I didn't eat what was going to make me sick. It wasn't until then that I realized how food labeling has become so incredibly creepy and misinforming.

Okay, I'll stop now...

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:44 PM EDT
luckydog

Hey, sharing and learning is what it is all about. I am just waiting for them to invent that magic weight loss pill.

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:15 PM EDT
Shannoscubie

I am just waiting for them to invent that magic weight loss pill.

They already did, but what they didn't tell you (because they don't HAVE to with the new vague labeling laws) is that when you take it you have to wear a diaper. ;-)

  • 3 votes
#1.7 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:19 PM EDT
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belle42

sugar is a solid. syrup is a liquid. if corn syrup can be solidified into crystals, then it is corn sugar. if sugar is in liquid form (like molasses) it is a syrup. what's the big naming problem?

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:25 AM EDT
Baron von Steuben

Corn syrup has a bad rap. Like they said, it is metabolized the same as sugar in the body, but there is some stigma attached to it. So it's simply a PR move.

  • 1 vote
#2.1 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:40 AM EDT
belle42

corn syrup has a purpose...in entertainment it is a good base for fake blood (just add chocolate syrup and red food dye)

we NEED corn syrup for zombie and vampire cosplay!!

  • 4 votes
#2.2 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:42 AM EDT
Shannoscubie

it is metabolized the same as sugar in the body,

Actually, it's not, according to this Princeton study last year.

High-fructose corn syrup and sucrose are both compounds that contain the simple sugars fructose and glucose, but there at least two clear differences between them. First, sucrose is composed of equal amounts of the two simple sugars -- it is 50 percent fructose and 50 percent glucose -- but the typical high-fructose corn syrup used in this study features a slightly imbalanced ratio, containing 55 percent fructose and 42 percent glucose. Larger sugar molecules called higher saccharides make up the remaining 3 percent of the sweetener. Second, as a result of the manufacturing process for high-fructose corn syrup, the fructose molecules in the sweetener are free and unbound, ready for absorption and utilization. In contrast, every fructose molecule in sucrose that comes from cane sugar or beet sugar is bound to a corresponding glucose molecule and must go through an extra metabolic step before it can be utilized.

This creates a fascinating puzzle. The rats in the Princeton study became obese by drinking high-fructose corn syrup, but not by drinking sucrose. The critical differences in appetite, metabolism and gene expression that underlie this phenomenon are yet to be discovered, but may relate to the fact that excess fructose is being metabolized to produce fat, while glucose is largely being processed for energy or stored as a carbohydrate, called glycogen, in the liver and muscles.

  • 8 votes
#2.3 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:26 PM EDT
luckydog

Very good Shannoscubie, I wondered when somebody would point that out.

Also:

High fructose corn syrup began to come under scrutiny when a few nutritionists noticed that the widespread introduction of high fructose corn syrup in the late 70's and early 80's corresponded suspiciously well to a sudden rise in obesity rates, after decades of relative stability.

Now it could be that it is because it is added to all kinds of processed foods where it wasn't present before or as the Princeton study pointed out, it may be causing our rats to get fat for other reasons but for sure don't confuse it with sugar.

  • 7 votes
#2.4 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:16 PM EDT
Baron von Steuben

Proved me wrong.

  • 4 votes
#2.5 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:20 PM EDT
daMamma

As a diabetic, I assure you HFCS and cane sugar are most definitely not the same. Nor are they processed in the same manner by the body.

Pull a personal experiment for 30 days. Go through your cupboards and eliminate everything in there that contain any corn syrup products. (grab all the msg products too!) The first couple of days HFCS and MSG free are going to be hard. By the end of the month you'll find yourself feeling great, you'll have more energy and actually be less crank-i-fide.

There are dozens of different names for these products, look them up.

  • 5 votes
#2.6 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:38 PM EDT
Shannoscubie

By the end of the month you'll find yourself feeling great,

Eh, by the end of the first DAY or two, I'll find myself murdered in my sleep by my partner and kids! :-P

  • 5 votes
#2.7 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:42 PM EDT
River-239955

By the end of the month you'll find yourself feeling great, you'll have more energy and actually be less crank-i-fide.

This is true. I feel so much stronger and healthier when I am careful about what I consume.

  • 6 votes
#2.8 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:44 PM EDT
belle42

I'm just the opposite -- when I eat healthy by body rebels against me (more migraines, bitchier). Yay chocolate, the cure for everything :)

  • 7 votes
#2.9 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:45 PM EDT
daMamma

Yay chocolate, the cure for everything :)

Yes it is! But good quality chocolate does not have all that vile, nasty stuff in it. Talk about to die for yummy goodness.... Mmmmm....

Eh, by the end of the first DAY or two, I'll find myself murdered in my sleep by my partner and kids! :-P

Oh my! Well in that case, I can certainly see where you would not be feeling 'totally great'.
lol

Throw chocolate at them, that might help.

  • 6 votes
#2.10 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:15 PM EDT
River-239955

Throw chocolate at them, that might help.

Never share your chocolate. Tell them to go get their own, and enjoy the peace and quiet while they are gone doing just that.

  • 5 votes
#2.11 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:10 PM EDT
daMamma

I didn't say you had to throw the good stuff. That's strictly for personal consumption. Keeping a bag of the cheap stuff handy for emergencies such as staving off the marauding hordes (kids/SO) is always a good idea.

; )

  • 3 votes
#2.12 - Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:47 AM EDT
River-239955

Well.... Some of that cheap stuff can be pretty good. I don't share my 99 cent cookies-n-cream Palmer's. (Of course, I don't have kids around, so no harm done.)

  • 2 votes
#2.13 - Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:53 AM EDT
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The Watcher-2361491

Yes. It is also stickey.

  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:09 PM EDT
mightyj

So is moonshine still ok if it is made from high fructose corn syrup?

  • 3 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:39 PM EDT
luckydog

I would say so since it is converted to alcohol.

  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:00 PM EDT
mightyj

Lucky- I was joking a little. I have been trying to avoid sugar and particularly HFCS but I do use honey sometimes. I haven't heard good things about aspartame either.

A shot does sound good right about now.

  • 3 votes
#4.2 - Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:13 PM EDT
luckydog

Indeed it does.

As to aspartame I have heard the same bad things but as a long time user I have noticed no ill effects, ill effects, ill effects.

  • 4 votes
#4.3 - Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:30 AM EDT
Shannoscubie

I have noticed no ill effects, ill effects, ill effects.

LOL! I HATE the way it tastes. It doesn't go to the "sweet" place, it just tastes...slimy. Sometimes I accidentally buy a drink that has aspartame in it and it hits me with the first mouthful. Pleh.

  • 4 votes
#4.4 - Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:38 AM EDT
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